the government stopped it. that didn't happen in history. let the government keep doing this. they will keep it going as long as they can. >> we didn't have it. >> they will fail. they will fail. i will make that prediction. >> you'll never make money betting against america. >> i'm not betting against america. i'm the most bullish person in the world for the last 20 years. i'm betting against artificial stimulus by a government gone nuts. that's what i'm betting against. >> the government will pull out. >> one at a time. nathan, go ahead. >> look, the government is going to pull out. i'm arguing with santelli about this. i'll tell you what will happen. over time the government will stop buying as many bonds as the private sector moves in. you'll eventually get a full private sector economy. unfortunately it's going to take a while because we are, i'll agree with you on this, we're in a deep hole right now, no doubt about it. >> if they do it gradually to nathan's point, harry, doesn't it actually turn out -- if the government feels as though the market and the economy is heal